In an excerpt from Ways of Seeing, John Berger discusses the idea of the self, and how this "self" is different for women and men. While the male's sense of self is independent of his appearance or behavior, suggesting "what he is capable of doing to you or for you," the female's identity is intertwined with her "image of herself"-- "A woman's presence expresses her own attitude to herself and defines what can and cannot be done to her. Her presence is manifest in her gestures, voice, opinions, expressions, clothes, chosen surroundings, taste-- indeed there is nothing she can do which does not contribute to her presence." If this is what determines how women are seen and whether or not they are taken seriously by others, will it ever be possible to have a society where relations between the sexes are equal? Is there any way to transcend this kind of inequality if it is so ingrained in the ways in which we see ourselves, behave towards ourselves, and exist in the world in general?